TEKIN HOTWIRE V5/VEGAS 208公开
今天没事上TEKIN官网,发现在23号时TEKIN公开了RS/RX8系列使用的最新内核208和电脑端软件HOTWIRE V5。更新基本上是注重于适应新的赛例和让电变本身设定方面的简便化,当然新功能也少不了,现在RX8系列和以前的DUAL DRIVE有/无感转换模式也有了BOOST概念的功能,类似于以前RS纯有感模式的BOOST
Tekin Vegas 208 Software
for RS, RS PRO and RX8 controllers
The Vegas 208 software contains several major advances towards Tekin's never-ending
pursuit of perfection. As well as increases in performance and lower temperatures, V208 includes a
spec' mode required at some races and some new features to make it all easier to use. So this time its
Smarter, Cooler, Faster
RS Spec Mode
The spec mode provides no Timing Advance or Boost in the controller. The center LED
flashes when in neutral to make it easy to verify the unit is in spec mode.
RS Brakes
A major improvement is stronger braking at high speeds. Braking power is increased and is
more linear throughout the RPM range.
RS and RX8 Power Delivery
To fine-tune the power delivery we have improved the Current Limiter. Most drivers have
reported they can limit the current down to 80% before they even notice it. This can lower motor
temps without sacrificing any power or feel. Many drivers have found it beneficial to use even use
lower settings in low tractionthey find their car handles a lot better without the sudden jolt of torque
that can be produced by brushless motors.
Results
Team driver reports have demonstrated that the smoother power delivery and improved
brakes, combined with intelligent current limiting, is producing faster lap times and lower
temperatures.
Making it easier. RS and RX8 On-Board Timing Profiles
Who needs a separate programming box when all the features are available on the ESC at the
touch of a button? While the HotWire is needed for fine-tuning and software updates, we realize not
everyone wants to carry a computer to the track. To make it easier, 208 has new Timing Profiles
which are taking the place of Throttle Profiles on the RS's onboard interface. Throttle Profile settings
are still available using the HotWire. Throttle curve adjustments can also be made on almost all good
radios.
The user can now select from 5 preset Timing Profiles on the RS and RS PRO without a HotWire
RS and RS PRO
TP1 Spec Mode 0deg Boost (LED flashes when in neutral so Tech can easily verify mode)
TP2 15deg Boost, 5442 RPM to 20,000 RPM
TP3 25deg Boost, 5442 RPM to 20,000 RPM
TP4 35deg Boost, 5442 RPM to 20,000 RPM
TP5 45deg Boost, 5442 RPM to 20,000 RPM
C1 Custom settings using Hotwire
C2 Custom settings using Hotwire
Custom 1 and Custom 2 (C1 and C2) are user-savable Timing Profiles created in the HotWire
and are selected via the RS's onboard interface. This will allow the user to run the same ESC in a spec
class and have his or her own personal settings stored in C1 or C2 for the non-spec class at the same
event/race.
RS, RSpro and RX8 Dual Mode Boost
Also new in 208 is Dual Mode Boost. This feature is most useful when used in the RS PRO
with modified motors, or in the RX8 with all T8 motors. Dual Mode Boost lets users set the RPM
range where Timing Advance is added, just like we already do with Boost in sensored-only mode.
This is the best of both worlds for low turn motors, allowing low gearing/low timing for more torque
out of the corners and higher timing for higher top speed/RPM on the straights. This is especially
helpful on tracks with tight infields and a long straight.
RS and RSpro Dual Mode Boost Settings
The user can set Dual Mode Boost in the RS using the HotWire and the Custom Timing
Profiles. The Start RPM should be in the upper ranges of 10,000 with an End RPM of 25,000+. The
maximum timing in Dual Mode is 30deg. The setting range is 0% to 100% (0deg to 30deg) with the
most common settings being 50% to 100% (15deg to 30deg).
Team drivers have noted that often they can go up one whole motor wind with the increased
power band. For example if you run 4WD Off-road Mod with a 6.5T, in Dual Mode you can now
run a 7.5T and get the same if not more useable power and top speed, all with lower motor temps.
RX8 Dual Mode Boost Settings
Tekin T8 motors are 4-pole, 12-slot motors with very low turns that need very little timing at
higher RPM. The maximum timing in Dual Mode is 30deg, displayed in the HotWire as Timing
Advance, with a range of 0% to 100%. The T8 motors are only able to efficiently use about 30% to
50% Timing Advance (10 to 15deg). Settings higher than 50% on Timing Advance is appropriate
for standard 1/10 scale motors, for Tekin's SC4x SCT motors, and for the long-can motors that some
sell as 1/8 scale motors.
While Timing Advance in a 1/10 scale motor can more than double the kV of a motor, the
T8 motors only increase kV around 10%, after which the extra energy is wasted in the form of heat.
Run times decrease when too much timing is applied.
The user can select from 5 preset Timing Profiles on the RS, RSpro and RX8 without a HotWire:
TP1 10% Dual Mode Timing Advance,
TP2 27% Dual Mode Timing Advance,
TP3 45% Dual Mode Timing Advance,
TP4 63% Dual Mode Timing Advance,
TP5 80% Dual Mode Timing Advance
C1 Custom settings using Hotwire
C2 Custom settings using Hotwire
Custom 1 and Custom 2 (C1 and C2) are user-savable Timing Profiles created in the HotWire
and selected via the RX8's on-board interface. This will allow the user to have specific Timing
Advance values or different RPM ranges, that are then available on the unit with just a few button
pushes. sofa sofa sofa!!!!!! 本帖最后由 AI 于 10-8-4 16:18 编辑
简单讲下自己理解的内容 英文不好 有错请指正
RS SPEC MODE
全程无进角或BOOST的设定 应该是为了适应现在美国还是哪里的无进角SPORT组赛例 中位时LED会闪烁 很方便就可以确认现在是工作在无进角程序
RS BRAKES
在高速时更强力的刹车 刹车力度增加而且更线性 重刹车的兄弟估计有福了:lol
RS AND RX8 POWER DELIVERY
在限流限制上微调了动力输出 很多人反应给TEKIN说限流到80%他们也不会觉得有什么动力输出问题 这个也可以对动力和感觉没什么影响的情况下降低马达的温度(简单讲就是电变不提供本身已经不需要的那一部分多余动力;P ) 不少人使用较低的数值来减少过多的动力 车架的操控会变成更好一些 不会有太突然的马达扭力变化
RESULTS
厂队反应需要更柔顺的动力输出和改良刹车 配合智能限流可以获得最快的单圈和更低的温度
MAKING IT EASIER。 RS AND RX8 ON BOARD TIMING PROFILES(个人认为的改进重点之一 毕竟不少人觉得一起带电脑太麻烦或者身边正好没有HOTWIRE可用)
原先HOTWIRE和电脑作为电变升级以及修改进角和BOOST数据设定的必需品 出门是一定逃不掉的 不过有时间也是实在懒得带 但电变可设定的项目不提供这些 现在V208提供了5套不同的预计进角和BOOST设定在电变内 可以直接在电变上选择 同时也给了两套空白设定给HOTWIRE使用 在RS系列上这个新设定被设在了原来电变油门曲线项目上 替换了原先的曲线设定 原先的曲线还是可以用HOTWIRE设定
RS系列的5套默认设定:
TP1:SPECMODE 无进角模式 LED在中位是闪烁的 普通模式为常亮 很容易分辨
TP2:15度BOOST 5442RPM启动 20000RPM关闭
TP3:同上 但BOOST是25度
TP4:同上 35度
TP5:同上 45度
C1: HOTWIRE自定义
C2: HOTWIRE自定义
(PS:这个度数个人估计不是实际度数只是个数值 RS系列这一档的设定数值为0-55 如果你觉得55度实际进角都是正常值的话就当我没说好了;P但这个数值的换算值和DD模式的换算值不能套用 DD模式是官方给出的值1=0.3度 RS系列纯有感的TIMING BOOST值目前我只知道应该是厂队的人在回复别人时有给过一个大约的值30度左右 换算值为1=0.55度 只能做参考 暂时没找到官方数据)
以个人以前的少量经验来看 TP2和TP3可以看做使用MODIFY等低T马达时可以使用的程序 比如8.5或者6.5T TP4会比较多用在11.5等更高T马达 TP5同TP4使用情况但动力和温度提升更激进 随便哪种模式因为都是可变进角所以要特别注意齿比和马达温度 电变本身温度可以靠LED直接辨断 (题外话PS:TEKIN貌似是不推荐7.5T以下的马达使用BOOST程序 不过上次好盈杯期间测试的结果是在有一只小风扇的情况下 可以BOOST带着4.5T到处窜 10分钟电变4LED中温 小号电变看来还有很多地方可以挖掘;P )
RS,RSPRO AND RX8 DUAL MODE BOOST(个人认为的改进重点之二)
RS系列有一个TEKIN的DUAL DRIVE模式(RX8应该也有 不过忘记了 有点记不清) 介绍上来看是加速过程有/无感自动转换 起步有感然后转成无感模式 从最早的试车情况来看 成绩是比纯有感模式要快一点点 但BOOST这种BT功能开放以后没有BOOST功能的DD模式在纯有感模式面前在平路方面是完败;P而在越野方面DD模式是深受好评 现在DD模式也有了BOOST功能 DD模式要翻身还是越野也要全面开始BOOST呢;PDD模式的BOOST是设定TIMING ADVANCE(等同于纯有感的TIMING BOOST档)值在某个RPM值介入 原理类似于纯有感的BOOST设定 习惯了原来BOOST设定人的估计应该很容易找到设定 在弯道低齿比(这个低个人不能理解 个人认为可能是数字更大的齿比)/少量TIMING提供更多扭力 入直路以后大TIMING提供更高的车速(上次电越亚洲积分赛有试过用可变程序来跑 得到的效果还是比较理想的 控制好设定值的话电机温度也在正常范围)
RS AND RSPRO DUAL MODE BOOST SETTINS
RS系列可以用HOTWIRE和电变的自定义进角档(C1/C2)来设定DD模式的BOOST(没有提默认模式 应该确定是要用HOTWIRE才行) 启动RPM一般应该高于10000然后关闭RPM25000以上(启动高于10000这点有别于纯有感模式 纯有感最低可以开到3位数 DD模式要10000以上可能是为了让开有/无感的转换点 估计和纯有感一样没感应线或者感应部分损坏是不提供BOOST功能的) DD模式的最大进角是30度 设定数值为0-100%(0-30度)比较常见的设定是50-100%(15-30度)(TEKIN的进角设定值一直只是个符号 不等于进角值 所以不同电变的设定值是没办法通用的 除非官方给出总进角值来换变 纯有感模式好像没给)
厂队的情况是如果你4WD在用6.5的话 DD模式用7.5就可以用差不多的动力和速度而且低温 用高T马达的话在弯中控制会更容易 开BOOST的话速度又有保证 只要你控制好马达温度 用BOOST可以更简单的得到一个漂亮的单圈
RX8 DUAL MODE BOOST SETTINGS
TEKIN T8马达是4极12槽而且低T在高RPM只有很小TIMING DD模式最大进角30度 同样显示在HOTWIRE上TIMING ADVANCE档 数值是0-100%(同RS系列) T8马达实际只需要使用大概30-50%的TIMING ADV(10-15度) 超过50%的TIMING ADV设定是给一个标准1/10尺寸马达,for Tekin's SC4x SCT motors, and for the long-can motors that some sell as 1/8 scale motors.(例如TEKIN的SC4X SCT马达或者类似的长壳1/8尺寸马达 不完全理解估计是这个意思 不确定正确)
虽然TIMING ADV在一个1/10尺寸马达可以提供超过原有2倍以上的KV,但T8马达实际上只能增加10%左右,然后过多的能量变成热量浪费掉,过多的进度还减少行驶时间(这些是个人觉得TEKIN很有趣的地方 设定项目也好 可能发生的情况也好 能想到基本原因和原理尽量都先和你讲清楚 让你理解好这样估计客服也省力 你自己用的也心知肚明;P )
和RS系列的纯有感BOOST模式一样 RX8的DD模式一样提供5套默认BOOST模式可以通过电变直接选择
TP1-TP5分别是5种不同比例的TIMING ADV设定 C1/C2还是可以用HOTWIRE自定义
(PS:文章里有提到这5只DD模式设定可以让RS系列和RX8不用HOTWIRE来直接设定 不过个人估计这个在RS系列上还是要靠HOTWIRE先改模式才行 毕竟印象里RS电变上不能直接切换纯有感/DD模式 不过既然能把电变升到V208 要用HOTWIRE改下模式也很简单了:lol ) TAKEN就是厉害
orain速度追上~!orain
我还是比较喜欢LRP和的
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Tekin
orion......
就那3个字母的没拼错 刚才刷新了自己的RS V5的界面已经完全改变 主界面显示你所有的设定值 设定的项目被分类摆放 更加一目了然
打开V5后 RS会被强制要求升级到V208 应该还是需要保证电脑处在上网状态 断网状态没有试 以前是不可以升级
V5不像以前V4之类的可以再反刷回旧版本 只支持V208 不过好吧 这个功能本来也没什么意义 有人需要旧版本吗;P
DD模式界面
纯有感模式界面
越来越高科技了 AI兄有空能否分享一下您的TEKIN在410的设定, 谢谢 本帖最后由 AI 于 10-8-6 23:18 编辑
我没有把RS放在电越上 现在是在电房上面
410电越的话现在正好有一张TEKIN网上的设定可以参考 谢谢, 我昨天晚上也升级了, 同时看到Randy Pike的设定, 有意思的是, 他的车架也是DURANGO DEX410
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